[India] 2020六月这次中印真的会爆发战争？
过的军车大概初步算有五、六千辆
2020.06.06
我们在这里已经停留了24个小时了，过的军车大概初步算有五、六千辆
- 加勒万河谷冲突 Galwan Valley
- 习近平不是一个软弱的人
- 中国前线部队战士，必须提供中国前线部队战士最全面最高质量的后勤保障
- 印度不是1962年印度，中国更不是1962年中国
- 这里完全是中国巴基斯坦联合夹击印度状态。
- 中国军人的确辛苦了都要记大功
- 感谢解放军战士
香椿树:
欧美今天怂恿印度的力度和意愿无法超过1962年美国英国苏联的联合支持。 况且1962年中国与欧美武器水平相差甚远，印度也认为武器装备水平超过中国。 今天的硬件对比和国际环境已经不是1962年了。 印度唯一试探的是中国领导人和军队的意志。
印度方面民意：
I am a hardcore hindu and indian at heart but for the first time ever i will have to agree with Pakistanis that Modi has failed in front of china. Why are we pleading to Chinese? Are we not strong enough to protect our territory? Stop crying in front of China and start preparing for a war. Show them that even if we have to die, our last scar on China’s face will ever be remembered.
Shame on you Modi!
国际看法：
- 引发最近紧张局势的导火索，似乎是印度军队正在加尔万山谷的山口修建公路，这条公路将通往一个偏远的空军基地。军事分析人士说，这条公路完全在印度境内，但中国人已决意要挫败印度提升其军事地位的努力。
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中印 加勒万河谷 事件 经过
加勒万河谷 冲突 经过
中印两国军人在加勒万河谷爆发严重肢体冲突
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被中国俘虏的活下来了，被印度接回去的死了。
印度被打死了一个团长，被俘一名少校、一名上尉。解放军有被人俘虏吗？
有支援啊，他们都讲了，持续不断的军人加入战场，时常8小时
印度那些参与的不少是逃回去，和被捕释放的。中方没有被捕，还打死一个团长
不可能 印度这些死的是被驱离摔死冻死的 说明中方再战斗中是优势的
当场打死三个，，后面那些是他们后勤太差，冻死的，，我们还有俘虏，怎么我们伤亡比他高呢
我们这边轻伤5人重伤两人全部用直升机，送下去了。印度这边当场打死三人，其中17个人被打伤被赶下河，高原低温缺氧，受了伤，后果非常严重，然后直接被冻死的。其实他们挺惨的，看着我方受伤的，被直升机送下去，而他们只能等死。
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北京时间昨天深夜，印度军方表示，又有17名在加勒万河谷肢体冲突中受伤的印度军人由于暴露在零度以下的高海拔地区死亡，印度军人的死亡人数从3名增加至20名。这件事引起印度舆论的强烈反响。
看到消息后，老胡在深夜连发两条推特，内容分别是：
[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/post_13563884_1.html/ ]
第一条：“这肯定不是我这样的中国人希望听到的消息。中印军人的生命都是宝贵的。把这些年轻军人推向致命肢体冲突的印度政治力量要对他们的死承担责任。印度必须停止边境冒险。”
第二条：“多达17名受伤印度军人被报道因得不到及时抢救而身亡，这反映了印度军队紧急救助伤员能力的严重落后。这不是一支真正有现代高原作战能力的军队，印度舆论需要清醒。”
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在6月6号军长级对话结束后，双方开始脱离接触，帐篷的数量也在减少中。上周，中国人回到之前的营地（备注，此地属于实际控制线我方一侧）继续施工。一名印度上校带着下属前往该营地，冲突爆发（根据我方西部战区发布的消息，我方两名施工人员被印方人员打伤）。印度人很快就遭到了石头的袭击。中国士兵用缠了铁丝网的棍棒还击。上校受了重伤，印方人员一部立即撤离。但有士兵被中国人包围。到日落时，上校因为伤势过重而去世，被中国人包围的印度士兵没有返回。这时一名印度少校和更多的人携带近战武器（估计也是棍棒之类的）前往中方营地。双方冲突升级，互有人员伤亡。越来越多的中国军队抵达营地支援。冲突在加勒万河两侧的山脊上蔓延，战斗中，有多名印度士兵从陡峭的悬崖跌落到下方的岩石或河中。之后，一名中国指挥官到达现场，命令部队后退，并允许印方收拾伤员。印度军人在黑暗中下到河谷回收尸体。此时当地气温较低，严寒中执行这样的任务十分艰巨。到了早上，几名受伤过重的印度人死亡。
https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/148823677
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最新较可靠消息，我方负伤5人。我方实际已停止修建公路并后退，但印度人发扬一贯得寸进尺的传统风格，认为我方退让得不够，趁夜跑到我方来偷塔，结果就这么悲剧了
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我方仅5人轻伤，大家可以放心了！
https://lt.cjdby.net/thread-2628099-1-1.html
怎么不可能，听说阿三轻装夜袭，解放军是全副武装，而且是几倍人数伏击。基本上是一边倒了，关门打狗，两百阿三，当场死了三个，现在伤后死亡十七，后面可能还有增加。目前是还有一百四十多受伤，被俘虏四十多，我们已经放了很多了。我看的南海秘境那个公众号也是说我们受伤五人
https://lt.cjdby.net/thread-2628099-1-1.html
最新微博消息。我方是大规模有准备持戒行动。
三哥队伍被打散。于是，当场打死3人，受伤几十人，后来去医院不治又死了几十人。
我方有准备，只是伤了几个人，我方没有死亡。
200个阿三，先死3，又死17，还有伤140+，被俘40+ 。。。。。
所以说胡锡进的消息来源是可靠的，所以才会在推特上嘲笑印度军队
确切的说应该是3名战士轻伤，2名施工人员重伤。就是因为重伤我方2名施工人员，后面才下死手回击。
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白天20度，到了晚上冰川融水能结冰。高原环境的恶劣，没去过的人无法理解。
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ladakh-face-off-days-after-clash-china-frees-10-indian-soldiers/article31863845.ece
Three days after clashes in the Galwan Valley of Ladakh left 20 Indian soldiers dead, the Chinese on Thursday evening released 10 Indian Army personnel, including a Lieutenant Colonel and three Majors, from their custody.
A security source told The Hindu that all 10 persons were released around 5 p.m. after an agreement was reached at the Major General-level talks on Wednesday evening and they were returned unharmed.
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ladakh-face-off-days-after-clash-china-frees-10-indian-soldiers/article31863845.ece/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Ladakh face-off | Days after clash, China frees 10 Indian soldiers
The release follows agreement at Major General-level talks; no troops missing in action, says Army.
Three days after clashes in the Galwan Valley of Ladakh left 20 Indian soldiers dead, the Chinese on Thursday evening released 10 Indian Army personnel, including a Lieutenant Colonel and three Majors, from their custody.
A security source told The Hindu that all 10 persons were released around 5 p.m. after an agreement was reached at the Major General-level talks on Wednesday evening and they were returned unharmed.
Ladakh face-off | China’s People’s Liberation Army planned attack in Galwan for at least two days, says senior government official
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ladakh-face-off-days-after-clash-china-frees-10-indian-soldiers/article31863845.ece/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
“The Chinese are seeking to establish psychological dominance- there are severely injured Indians, at least 10 prisoners still in Chinese custody,” claims Defence Analyst Ajai Shukla
https://twitter.com/ndtv/status/1273317977115385856
The brutal killing of Colonel Santosh Babu, the Commanding Officer of the 18th battalion of the Bihar Regiment and his men by the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) has now brought home the reality of Chinese intentions in Ladakh.
Reliable military and intelligence sources now say that the death toll of Indian soldiers is considerably higher and could be more than 40 soldiers. A Lieutenant Colonel and a Major are still missing and could be in Chinese captivity.
What is inexplicable is why Colonel Babu and his men went unarmed to remove a temporary Chinese structure that was being set up in a place known as Patrolling Point 14.
https://www.deccanchronicle.com/opinion/columnists/180620/chinese-intrusions-and-indias-limited-options.html
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Typically a battalion consists of 300 to 800 soldiers and is divided into a number of companies.
https://english.newsnationtv.com/india/news/bihar-regiment-indian-armys-bold-and-brave-regiment-146160.html
uryapet: Last respects being paid to Colonel Santosh Babu, Commanding Officer of the 16 Bihar regiment, who lost his life in Galwan Valley clash #Telangana
https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1273462344480247809/photo/1
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/wave-of-grief-as-mortal-remains-of-soldiers-reach-their-native-places-anti-china-protests-several-parts-1690128-2020-06-18
上级问：我方伤亡如何？
下级答：你这么问不科学，我们明明没死亡怎么能问伤亡？
上级答：你回答死亡数0即可，你这小学算数怎么学的？
在6月6号军长级对话结束后，双方开始脱离接触，帐篷的数量也在减少中。上周，中国人回到之前的营地（备注，此地属于实际控制线我方一侧）继续施工。一名印度上校带着下属前往该营地，冲突爆发（根据我方西部战区发布的消息，我方两名施工人员被印方人员打伤）。印度人很快就遭到了石头的袭击。中国士兵用缠了铁丝网的棍棒还击。上校受了重伤，印方人员一部立即撤离。但有士兵被中国人包围。到日落时，上校因为伤势过重而去世，被中国人包围的印度士兵没有返回。这时一名印度少校和更多的人携带近战武器（估计也是棍棒之类的）前往中方营地。双方冲突升级，互有人员伤亡。越来越多的中国军队抵达营地支援。冲突在加勒万河两侧的山脊上蔓延，战斗中，有多名印度士兵从陡峭的悬崖跌落到下方的岩石或河中。之后，一名中国指挥官到达现场，命令部队后退，并允许印方收拾伤员。印度军人在黑暗中下到河谷回收尸体。此时当地气温较低，严寒中执行这样的任务十分艰巨。到了早上，几名受伤过重的印度人死亡。
https://i.ifeng.com/c/7xM8VeVYR3w
planet labs india china
planet labs india china galwan valley
幸存者说解放军在实控线附近疯狂地追捕印度军队
https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/149028469
#领土争端#综合各路消息，这次事件的起因跟上次洞朗事件差不多。昨晚我方人员在实际控制区域内正常施工，印度人过来干扰，并且殴打我方施工人员，造成2人轻伤。
跟洞朗事件不一样的是，这次没有给印度人机会，我方大批人员迅速赶到，随即发生激烈的冲突。冲突中有3名印度人从险峻地带跌落而亡，另有34名被捉。而我方加上施工人员共有5人轻伤。
今天印度高层开了一个会，认为形势比较紧张，不过紧张的不仅是中印。就在近日，大批尼泊尔军队进入了印度侵占的地区，收复了数百平方公里领土，加上印巴交火越来越激烈，估计印度人会迅速妥协。
中印争端不必担心，绝不会开战，从5月至今，发生的数次冲突都是肢体肉搏，并没有使用武器，双方都不想让事态发展到不可控，大不了再打几次群架，我们的边防战士真是辛苦了。
https://s.weibo.com/weibo/%25E4%25B8%25AD%25E5%258D%25B0%2520%25E5%2586%25B2%25E7%25AA%2581%2520%25E4%25BA%258B%25E4%25BB%25B6?topnav=1&wvr=6&b=1
China Daily editorial
China Daily editorial
China Daily editorial
China has not released details of the deaths and injuries on its side, in an attempt to avoid any notion of winners or losers and prevent any escalation of tensions, but with casualties on both sides and tensions having been simmering for a while before boiling over, the incident cannot but raise worries that the situation risks running out of control.
==> death?
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202006/17/WS5eea05bca310834817253bc7.html
Pakistan China
Some Indians wish this
印度总理莫迪周三(6月17日）就印中军队发生流血边界冲突事件发表电视讲话。他表示，在国家领土完整和主权问题上绝不妥协。
他说：“我要向全国保证，我们战士不会白白牺牲。”“对我们来说，印度的领土完整和主权是最重要的，没有人可以阻止我们保护她。没有人应该对此有任何幻想或怀疑。”
莫迪在谈到在这次冲突中阵亡的印度士兵时说：“我们英勇牺牲的战士们走了，全国将为他们的战死感到骄傲。”
莫迪还说：“我们如果有分歧，我们总可以解决分歧，不会让它们成为纠纷。分歧不会变成纠纷。我们从来不挑衅别人，但我们在我们国家的领土完整和主权问题上不会妥协。”
莫迪强调：“印度要和平，但如果受到挑衅，印度有能力做出恰当的回答。”
印度时报周三发表的社论标题是：“不能再等了，加勒万河谷冲突，中国欺人太甚，印度必须还击。”
2017年，两国军队在中国、印度和不丹交界的洞朗地区对峙73天，纠纷也没有得到解决。中国国家主席习近平和印度总理莫迪随后在2018年和2019年分别在中国武汉和印度海边城市马马拉普拉姆两次会晤。双方承诺，不让贸易和外交政策分歧扩大成为两国之间的纠纷。
Chinese casualties are thought to be significantly fewer.
Chinese casualties are thought to be significantly fewer.
https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/indian-forces-take-over-150-casualties-in-clashes-with-china-army-official-reports
China urged India to investigate the clash incident in the border region on Mon., punish those responsible, and restrain its military forces in the region to prevent any provocative actions: Chinese FM Wang Yi told the Indian FM on the phone #ChinaIndiaFaceoff
https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1273208644939603969
India-China clash: Capable of giving fitting reply, says Modi
https://www.newsbytesapp.com/timeline/india/62294/292136/pm-modi-speaks-on-india-china-clash-in-ladakh
Large numbers of dead bodies, Indian military officials say, were handed over by the PLA on Monday morning — possibly men dragged away in the course of hand-to-hand fighting, and then killed.
PLA Death Squads Hunted Down Indian Troops in Galwan in Savage Execution Spree, Say Survivors
Furious hand-to-hand fighting raged across the Galwan river valley for over eight hours on Monday night, as People’s Liberation Army assault teams armed with iron rods as well as batons wrapped in barbed wire hunted down and slaughtered troops of the 16 Bihar Regiment, a senior government official familiar with the debriefing of survivors at hospitals in Leh has told News18.
The savage combat, with few parallels in the history of modern armies, is confirmed to have claimed the lives of at least 23 Indian soldiers, including 16 Bihar’s commanding officer, Colonel Santosh Babu, many because of protracted exposure to sub-zero temperatures the Indian Army said late on Tuesday.
“Even unarmed men who fled into the hillsides were hunted down and killed,” one officer said. “The dead include men who jumped into the Galwan river in a desperate effort to escape.”
Government sources say at least another two dozen soldiers are battling life-threatening injuries, and over 110 have needed treatment. “The toll will likely go up,” a military officer with knowledge of the issue said.
https://www.news18.com/news/india/pla-death-squads-hunted-down-indian-troops-in-galwan-in-savage-execution-spree-say-survivors-2673347.html
对于中方没有透露具体的死亡数字的原因，胡锡进16日在推特（Twitter）上说，中方没有公布解放军的伤亡人数，是因为中方不希望两国人民对伤亡人数进行比较，以免引发公众情绪。这是北京的善意。
Military Forum
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/over-20-soldiers-including-commanding-officer-killed-at-galwan-border-clash-with-china.671545/page-156
17 injured Indian soldiers reportedly died due to lack of in-time rescue, which reflects the serious flaws of Indian army to provide emergency treatment to the wounded. This is not an army with real modern combat capabilities at plateau. Indian public opinion needs to stay sober.
https://twitter.com/HuXijin_GT/status/1272973497766051840
https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1272928142945128448
中印两军昨晚激烈肢体冲突，今天军报头版发重要消息
西部战区新闻发言人张水利大校就中印边防人员位加勒万河谷地区冲突对外发表声明：
昨天（6月15日）晚间，在中印边境加勒万河谷地区，印军违背承诺，再次越过实控线非法活动，蓄意发动挑衅攻击，引发双方激烈肢体冲突，造成人员伤亡。加勒万河谷地区主权历来属我。印边防部队出尔反尔，严重违反两国有关边境问题协定协议，严重违反中印军长级会谈共识，严重损害两军关系和两国人民感情。我们要求印方严格约束一线部队，立即停止一切侵权挑衅行动，与中方相向而行，回到对话会谈解决分歧的正确轨道上来。
政知圈（微信ID：wepolitics）梳理发现，此次回应系西部战区新闻发言人首次公开亮相。从官方报道可以看出，张水利服役于西部战区，军衔大校。他此前曾以西部战区联合参谋部作战局副局长身份亮相媒体公开报道。
2017年底，他以上述职务就印度相关问题作回应：一架印度无人飞行器近日侵入中方领空并坠毁。印方此举侵犯了中国领土主权，解放军将扎实履行职责使命，坚决捍卫国家主权安全。
印度军方6月16日称，印度和中国军队6与15日、6月16日在加勒万河谷地区发生了冲突，除了此前死亡的一名军官和两名士兵外，17名在执行任务时伤势严重的印度士兵已经死亡，总死亡人数达到20人。
声明称，“17名印度士兵在远离战场的地方执行任务时严重受伤，并暴露在零度以下的高海拔地区，目前他们已经死亡，在战斗中死亡的总数达到20人。印度军队坚定地致力于保护国家的领土完整和主权。”
中国解放军西部战区6月16日的声明称6月15日晚，在中印边境加勒万河谷地区，印军违背承诺，再次越过实控线非法活动，蓄意发动挑衅攻击，引发双方激烈肢体冲突，造成人员伤亡。
声明要求印方严格约束一线部队，立即停止一切侵权挑衅行动，与中方相向而行，回到对话会谈解决分歧的正确轨道上来。
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Multiple sources in government and military establishments told news agency PTI that the fierce clashes continued for several hours
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(Clockwise from left) Colonel Santosh Babu, Sepoy Ojha and Havildar Palani, who were killed during a clash with Chinese troops in Ladakh on Monday night. (PTI Photo)
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At least 20 Indian Army personnel killed in violent face-off in Ladakh’s Galwan Valley, say government sources
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Responding to a query on the development, Zhao Lijian, spokesperson of the Chinese foreign ministry, said he wasn’t aware about the fatalities.
“I am not aware of the information you provided. Recently to ease the situation on the India, China border, the two countries have been in close communication through military and diplomatic channels on June 6,” Zhao said at the regular ministry briefing on Tuesday.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/china-accuses-india-of-starting-serious-physical-conflict-quiet-on-details/story-gByCdMPZG3xksZkPLZJqzI.html
First death in combat since 1975
WHY necessary???
In a major escalation in the ongoing stand-off between India and China on the border, one Commanding Officer and two jawans of the Indian Army lost their lives during a violent faceoff with Chinese troops in the Galwan area ofEastern Ladakh on Monday night. These are the first combat deaths on the disputed boundary since 1975.
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/one-indian-army-officer-two-jawans-killed-in-ladakh-scuffle/article31840687.ece